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		<title>Implementing CMS: Public</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bobbi Newman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aubri Keleman, Teen Services &#38; Web Coordinator, Whatcom County Library System Tao Gao, Live2Create Interactive Aubri - Rumba with Joomla What is a cms and why is it wicked cool?  The webmaster doesn’t have to do anything Pre-redesign collect stats review your brand collect photos – tell a story focus groups set explicit goals in [...]]]></description>
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<p>Aubri Keleman, Teen Services &amp; Web Coordinator, Whatcom County Library System</p>
<p>Tao Gao, Live2Create Interactive</p>
<p>Aubri -</p>
<p>Rumba with Joomla</p>
<p>What is a cms and why is it wicked cool?  The webmaster doesn’t have to do anything</p>
<p>Pre-redesign</p>
<ul>
<li>collect stats</li>
<li>review your brand</li>
<li>collect photos – tell a story</li>
<li>focus groups</li>
<li>set explicit goals in priority order</li>
</ul>
<p>redesign questions</p>
<ul>
<li>do staff and leadership know why a new website is needed</li>
<li> which cms is best for us</li>
<li>what can we afford money vs time vs design</li>
<li>how much staff time can we put into the redesign &amp; upkeep;</li>
<li>do you need to outsource or do you have the talent you need on staff</li>
<li>how will decisions be made, who gets the final say</li>
<li>who is the best for the website</li>
<li>how will staff be involved in the redesign process</li>
<li>what project management tool should we use – blogs and wikis, they used a wiki</li>
</ul>
<p><span> </span>goal wc3 compliant</p>
<p>new page &#8211; www.wcls.org</p>
<p>results</p>
<ul>
<li>increased user feedback</li>
<li>more content, more up to date content</li>
<li>users spend more time on our site</li>
<li>improved navigation</li>
<li>w3c compliant</li>
<li>flexibility</li>
</ul>
<p>Problems</p>
<ul>
<li>you cant limit authors to just one page or section</li>
<li>calendar</li>
<li>migration</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<li><a href="http://librarianbyday.net/2009/04/social-network-profile-management/" rel="bookmark" title="April 1, 2009">Social network profile management</a></li>
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		<title>CM Tools: Drupal, Joomla, &amp; Rumba</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bobbi Newman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[CM Tools: Drupal, Joomla, &#38; Rumba John Blyberg Ryan Deschamps Ryan ModX How not to have to use drupal Cms in general Why joomla Why switch to ModX Good content mngmt system should facilitate division of labor, support overall development, ensure best practices and standards Halifax public library now in modx looked the same in [...]]]></description>
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<p>CM Tools: Drupal, Joomla, &amp; Rumba</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blyberg.net/">John Blyberg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://otherlibrarian.wordpress.com/">Ryan Deschamps</a></p>
<p>Ryan<br />
ModX<br />
How not to have to use drupal<br />
Cms in general<br />
Why joomla<br />
Why switch to ModX</p>
<p>Good content mngmt system should facilitate division of labor, support overall development, ensure best practices and standards<br />
Halifax public library now in modx looked the same in joomla<br />
Its not about the front end, its about the cockpit, ask long as the front end performs its about making the lives of your staff happy</p>
<p>Why they choose joomla<br />
Number 1 in market share<br />
Huge community of support<br />
Templates<br />
www.opensourcecms.com – demo of anything, can see how the back end looks and works</p>
<p>why they switched to ModX from Joomla<br />
painful upgrade<br />
started looking useful stuff – code etc, wanted to look at new services, joomla is not that great for adding unique<br />
nice interface but doesn’t help the development of the site</p>
<p>ModX<br />
Has fine grain user access, can restrict access to specific pages<br />
Resources</p>
<p>What he does like<br />
Still needs work<br />
Needs more documentation<br />
Some syntax knowledge required</p>
<p>Joomla really good for an intranet, wouldn’t recommend for a front end site,<br />
community engagement is more important that community size<br />
application framework</p>
<p>John<br />
If youre not thinking about cms at this point you are doing yourself a really big disservice<br />
Drupal – named open source cms of the year for the last 2 years<br />
Not as easy as joomla – steep learning curve</p>
<p>How drupal handles content<br />
Nodes – not a page, not a post<br />
Blog post could be a node, drupal considers that content type</p>
<p>Content creation kit (CCK) – allows you to create new content types<br />
Taxonomy system – drupa allows you to create your own classification system for your content types<br />
Drupal allows you to structure sites so that content is on more than one page, on front page and on book groups page for example</p>
<p>Templating system – php standard, html with php tags and code<br />
Sopac is completely template driven<br />
If you don’t like how something looks you can make it look exactly how you want it to</p>
<p>api system api.drupal.org<br />
hooks<br />
drupal website is the place to start if youre interested in having drupal in your system</p>
<p>sopac was built on top of drupal because they were confident that drupal was a viable product<br />
thesocialopac.net</p>
<p>questions<br />
if you were starting with drupal now would you go with 6 or 7? Answer 7 hasn’t been officially released yet, so use 6<br />
learning curve problems – some people have a problem with the taxonomy system, even John runs into things he doesn’t know and has to go to the site and look it up<br />
moving from one system to another, are there tools to facilitate a move from joomla to drupal? Ryan – probably but the tools might not be that trustworthy, always be looking forward, what is the next upgrade, how difficult is the next upgrade John – migration is not easy, he advises against if possible</p>
<p>mentioned not hacking the core code, can you explain – John if you tweak code &amp; drupal upgrades the file that you changed might have changed so you need to compare, very time consuming</p>
<p>modx has snippets, allows you to change code from back end with out breaking it</p>
<p>how easy to migrate from an existing site in php to one  of these tools?  Manually migrating your content,</p>
<p>if modx went away where would you go? Ryan &#8211; drupal<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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