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	<title>Comments on: I Want to Know Your Thoughts on ALA. Love it? Hate it? Tell Me Why</title>
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	<description>Bobbi Newman &#124; I&#039;m not that kind of librarian</description>
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		<title>By: Blog Activity &#124; librarycollector</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 20:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] as a forum for people to give and discuss their opinions on certain topics, like this post about the positive and negative aspects of the ALA. She also covers the ongoing Harper Collins issue by posting about the ebook users Bill of Rights, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as a forum for people to give and discuss their opinions on certain topics, like this post about the positive and negative aspects of the ALA. She also covers the ongoing Harper Collins issue by posting about the ebook users Bill of Rights, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ALA Marginalia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; An ALA Fireside Chat</title>
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		<dc:creator>ALA Marginalia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; An ALA Fireside Chat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of that from ALA members, a fact that has been greatly in evidence the past few weeks (see Exhibits A, B, and C for [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Brian Herzog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Herzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s true - I&#039;ll even give them the entire week.  But I really hope their response is something like, &quot;hey publishers/vendors, how about we organize a meeting between you and this group of librarians here, so we can all hash out a structure that works for everyone,&quot; and not, &quot;let&#039;s send this issue to a committee, then a subcommittee, and perhaps in two months we&#039;ll have a draft resolution proclaiming we do not like this.&quot;

I know large organizations move slowly, but...
...no matter how slowly you move, if you&#039;re not moving the right direction, you&#039;ll never get there
...some situations require quick reaction - maybe the ALA needs a &quot;ninja&quot; division that is agile enough to respond appropriately when necessary

And really, if it becomes necessary, it would be nice if the ALA could organize a boycott of publishers/vendors with business practices that are detrimental to libraries and patrons - and also suggest alternate sources for these materials so libraries can still satisfy patron demand.

I know all my comments are sounding negative, but I really am trying to proactively think of ways the ALA can help patrons in my library.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true &#8211; I&#8217;ll even give them the entire week.  But I really hope their response is something like, &#8220;hey publishers/vendors, how about we organize a meeting between you and this group of librarians here, so we can all hash out a structure that works for everyone,&#8221; and not, &#8220;let&#8217;s send this issue to a committee, then a subcommittee, and perhaps in two months we&#8217;ll have a draft resolution proclaiming we do not like this.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know large organizations move slowly, but&#8230;<br />
&#8230;no matter how slowly you move, if you&#8217;re not moving the right direction, you&#8217;ll never get there<br />
&#8230;some situations require quick reaction &#8211; maybe the ALA needs a &#8220;ninja&#8221; division that is agile enough to respond appropriately when necessary</p>
<p>And really, if it becomes necessary, it would be nice if the ALA could organize a boycott of publishers/vendors with business practices that are detrimental to libraries and patrons &#8211; and also suggest alternate sources for these materials so libraries can still satisfy patron demand.</p>
<p>I know all my comments are sounding negative, but I really am trying to proactively think of ways the ALA can help patrons in my library.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Hoenke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Hoenke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 02:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad I said something in regards to this post.  I had a discussion with a few people in the library world about ALA, YALSA, and ALA Emerging Leaders and a lot was made clearer to me about the organization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I said something in regards to this post.  I had a discussion with a few people in the library world about ALA, YALSA, and ALA Emerging Leaders and a lot was made clearer to me about the organization.</p>
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		<title>By: Beverly Choltco-Devlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beverly Choltco-Devlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops....grammatical errors:  
Third paragraph should have read:
We should not have to lose our humanity and our passion to be listened to. 

Second to last paragraph should have read:
I do THINK.....

Not enough coffee yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops&#8230;.grammatical errors:<br />
Third paragraph should have read:<br />
We should not have to lose our humanity and our passion to be listened to. </p>
<p>Second to last paragraph should have read:<br />
I do THINK&#8230;..</p>
<p>Not enough coffee yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbi Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbi Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian I&#039;m not ready to count them out on this one. The news broke on Friday. I&#039;m willing to give them Monday to respond. Its much easier for me to spout off my 2 cents as an individual, an organization does take some time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian I&#8217;m not ready to count them out on this one. The news broke on Friday. I&#8217;m willing to give them Monday to respond. Its much easier for me to spout off my 2 cents as an individual, an organization does take some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Golrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Golrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to agree with Gina (since I am in the same situation of working in a state library and being the only one who does some parts of my job).

I also want to echo what Peter said about connections, and go somewhat further.

One of the absolutely great things about ALA (and ALA Council) is the opportunity to meet and work with folks whose path you would not ordinarily cross. Now, Gina and I met back when I was a Chapter Councilor and public librarian. I share her chapter concerns. But my friend Janet Swan Hill and I like to tell about the fact that we met *only* through ALA Council. Where else would an academic cataloger (Janet) have the chance to work professionally with a public library director ex-reference librarian (me)? We have formed a great friendship and bond -- including our overlapping terms on the ALA Executive Board which is a whole different experience.

I was an inactive member of ALA for many years before figuring out how to become active. I just renewed and was amazed at how long it has now been.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Gina (since I am in the same situation of working in a state library and being the only one who does some parts of my job).</p>
<p>I also want to echo what Peter said about connections, and go somewhat further.</p>
<p>One of the absolutely great things about ALA (and ALA Council) is the opportunity to meet and work with folks whose path you would not ordinarily cross. Now, Gina and I met back when I was a Chapter Councilor and public librarian. I share her chapter concerns. But my friend Janet Swan Hill and I like to tell about the fact that we met *only* through ALA Council. Where else would an academic cataloger (Janet) have the chance to work professionally with a public library director ex-reference librarian (me)? We have formed a great friendship and bond &#8212; including our overlapping terms on the ALA Executive Board which is a whole different experience.</p>
<p>I was an inactive member of ALA for many years before figuring out how to become active. I just renewed and was amazed at how long it has now been.</p>
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		<title>By: Beverly Choltco-Devlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beverly Choltco-Devlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel that our membership in ALA is crucial to the extent that ALA can and has functioned in the very important arena of being our voice for monumental legal issues.  

I disagree to a certain extent with the posters  above regarding CIPA...ALA went to the mat against CIPA - as far as they COULD go.  The fact that the legal case did not go in our favor eventually was not ALA&#039;s fault (though it should have if the Supreme Court was doing its job and ruled on the least restrictive avenue) . 

I do not think ALA&#039;s presentations were &quot;hysterical&quot;- they were characterized that way because the arguments were passionate. Even if they were dispassionate, Ashcroft would have said they were hysterical because of the stereotype that we are largely an organization of women....no matter how ALA&#039;s case was  presented, it would have lost.  I found the whole process to be completely sexist to be honest.  We should not have to lose our humanity and our passion to not be listened to.  

Strategically, I don&#039;t think it would have made one bit of difference if we got up there and argued as if we were zombies.  Their minds were made up long before it got to the Supreme Court. The political climate was starting to shift even back then.   Never once did I feel that ALA was supporting filtering.  The CIPA case caused me to lose my faith in our entire political and justice system.  

My big concern about the CIPA battle was that once that was over ALA did not have enough money to fight the even more insidious Patriot Act. 

On a personal level, I do like to attend the ALA conferences when I can to get the pulse on national issues. We so often get wrapped up in our local ones.  Of course, on a personal level, I love to hear nationally known authors speak.  We can rarely afford to go now though. 

I also appreciate the studies which ALA funds which allow us to have some hard data to take to legislators.  And I appreciate their professional books.

I also get a lot from the publications that each of the Sections I belong to produces.  

I do membership is too costly for most librarians especially since many of us also belong to our state organizations.  I believe there should be a huge discount if you belong to both.  Many of my colleagues are making barely more than minimum wage and are working two and three different library jobs to make ends meet. Even $100 is a burden.  

I do agree that ALA tends to focus (and wastes much in the way of limited resources) on social issues that have nothing to do with libraries or librarianship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that our membership in ALA is crucial to the extent that ALA can and has functioned in the very important arena of being our voice for monumental legal issues.  </p>
<p>I disagree to a certain extent with the posters  above regarding CIPA&#8230;ALA went to the mat against CIPA &#8211; as far as they COULD go.  The fact that the legal case did not go in our favor eventually was not ALA&#8217;s fault (though it should have if the Supreme Court was doing its job and ruled on the least restrictive avenue) . </p>
<p>I do not think ALA&#8217;s presentations were &#8220;hysterical&#8221;- they were characterized that way because the arguments were passionate. Even if they were dispassionate, Ashcroft would have said they were hysterical because of the stereotype that we are largely an organization of women&#8230;.no matter how ALA&#8217;s case was  presented, it would have lost.  I found the whole process to be completely sexist to be honest.  We should not have to lose our humanity and our passion to not be listened to.  </p>
<p>Strategically, I don&#8217;t think it would have made one bit of difference if we got up there and argued as if we were zombies.  Their minds were made up long before it got to the Supreme Court. The political climate was starting to shift even back then.   Never once did I feel that ALA was supporting filtering.  The CIPA case caused me to lose my faith in our entire political and justice system.  </p>
<p>My big concern about the CIPA battle was that once that was over ALA did not have enough money to fight the even more insidious Patriot Act. </p>
<p>On a personal level, I do like to attend the ALA conferences when I can to get the pulse on national issues. We so often get wrapped up in our local ones.  Of course, on a personal level, I love to hear nationally known authors speak.  We can rarely afford to go now though. </p>
<p>I also appreciate the studies which ALA funds which allow us to have some hard data to take to legislators.  And I appreciate their professional books.</p>
<p>I also get a lot from the publications that each of the Sections I belong to produces.  </p>
<p>I do membership is too costly for most librarians especially since many of us also belong to our state organizations.  I believe there should be a huge discount if you belong to both.  Many of my colleagues are making barely more than minimum wage and are working two and three different library jobs to make ends meet. Even $100 is a burden.  </p>
<p>I do agree that ALA tends to focus (and wastes much in the way of limited resources) on social issues that have nothing to do with libraries or librarianship.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Herzog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Herzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s another example of what I think ALA &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; be doing, but doesn&#039;t seem to show any interest: the recent HaperCollins/Overdrive announcement about changing the way ebooks will circulate.  

The new proposal is bad for libraries and our patrons, and the ALA should be way out in front of it, marshaling libraries to speak with one voice (and hugely large purchasing power) and lobbying vendors to come to a mutually-beneficial arrangement in which both vendors&#039; and libraries&#039; needs are met.  

This is a significant and immediate issue for libraries and librarians, and I know many are passionate about it - but all of us acting individually won&#039;t accomplish much.  The ALA already has the infrastructure in place to organize our represent our interest, and I surely would like to see them perform this role.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another example of what I think ALA <em>should</em> be doing, but doesn&#8217;t seem to show any interest: the recent HaperCollins/Overdrive announcement about changing the way ebooks will circulate.  </p>
<p>The new proposal is bad for libraries and our patrons, and the ALA should be way out in front of it, marshaling libraries to speak with one voice (and hugely large purchasing power) and lobbying vendors to come to a mutually-beneficial arrangement in which both vendors&#8217; and libraries&#8217; needs are met.  </p>
<p>This is a significant and immediate issue for libraries and librarians, and I know many are passionate about it &#8211; but all of us acting individually won&#8217;t accomplish much.  The ALA already has the infrastructure in place to organize our represent our interest, and I surely would like to see them perform this role.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbi Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbi Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Suzi!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Suzi!</p>
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