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	<description>Bobbi Newman &#124; I&#039;m not that kind of librarian</description>
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		<title>By: moogie</title>
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		<dc:creator>moogie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i should now admit that i am a systems librarian.  i do not interact with patrons, customer, or clients at all.  

but they&#039;re still #1 in my mind and job, even as i do the managerial or back-end work.  i&#039;ve been around (for 20 years or so), but they are my boss, not some cookie-cutter manager who tells me what to do and when to do it and how to format it.

i just wanted everybody to take a step back and think about their role in providing effective services (the ideal that we started working in this field to begin with).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i should now admit that i am a systems librarian.  i do not interact with patrons, customer, or clients at all.  </p>
<p>but they&#8217;re still #1 in my mind and job, even as i do the managerial or back-end work.  i&#8217;ve been around (for 20 years or so), but they are my boss, not some cookie-cutter manager who tells me what to do and when to do it and how to format it.</p>
<p>i just wanted everybody to take a step back and think about their role in providing effective services (the ideal that we started working in this field to begin with).</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbi Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbi Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Toots 
I don&#039;t see this as a personal attack because I have never said publically or privately that one position in a library is more important than others, in fact I&#039;ve said just the opposite. 

Instead it comes across as a comment from someone with a chip on their shoulder. There are plenty of people in the library who do not interact with customers that I have NO idea what they do all day.  The lady in finance who process payroll and answers my questions when I have to fill out a new form, the office manager that I ask for binder clips and highlighters, Tech services who make sure our content gets to patrons, I think these are all incredibly important positions. I&#039;d wager that you do to. That leads me to believe your real problem is my title, Digital Branch Manager, and my blog. 

Since I blog using my real name I can&#039;t discuss some of the major issues I deal with at work. I can&#039;t tell you about the meetings where I am the ONLY branch manager arguing for something that benefits our patrons or against something because it doesn&#039;t. Trust me everything I do every day is for the benefit of our patrons.  

For the record I am the person who deals with our database vendors, I provide programs to patrons, and research new services. I would LOVE to order our titles for OverDrive, but I&#039;m not permitted. However I don&#039;t see this &quot;stuff&quot; as more or less important than the other &quot;stuff&quot; I do. 

I get called at home on nights and weekends on my personal cell phone by front-line staff who have questions about our services or some issue of technology. I take one on one appointments with patrons to help them use one of our services. When I do this I have to bring in my own laptop from home. I spend my evenings and weekends reading about the digital divide and national broadband plans or creating training for staff.

It is clear that you don&#039;t know me or what I do or what I stand for. Rather than suggestion I be more conscious of how I am viewed I suggest you get the chip off your shoulder and stop thinking that what you do is more important than what I do. We both are serving our patrons to the best of our ability in an important role.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toots<br />
I don&#8217;t see this as a personal attack because I have never said publically or privately that one position in a library is more important than others, in fact I&#8217;ve said just the opposite. </p>
<p>Instead it comes across as a comment from someone with a chip on their shoulder. There are plenty of people in the library who do not interact with customers that I have NO idea what they do all day.  The lady in finance who process payroll and answers my questions when I have to fill out a new form, the office manager that I ask for binder clips and highlighters, Tech services who make sure our content gets to patrons, I think these are all incredibly important positions. I&#8217;d wager that you do to. That leads me to believe your real problem is my title, Digital Branch Manager, and my blog. </p>
<p>Since I blog using my real name I can&#8217;t discuss some of the major issues I deal with at work. I can&#8217;t tell you about the meetings where I am the ONLY branch manager arguing for something that benefits our patrons or against something because it doesn&#8217;t. Trust me everything I do every day is for the benefit of our patrons.  </p>
<p>For the record I am the person who deals with our database vendors, I provide programs to patrons, and research new services. I would LOVE to order our titles for OverDrive, but I&#8217;m not permitted. However I don&#8217;t see this &#8220;stuff&#8221; as more or less important than the other &#8220;stuff&#8221; I do. </p>
<p>I get called at home on nights and weekends on my personal cell phone by front-line staff who have questions about our services or some issue of technology. I take one on one appointments with patrons to help them use one of our services. When I do this I have to bring in my own laptop from home. I spend my evenings and weekends reading about the digital divide and national broadband plans or creating training for staff.</p>
<p>It is clear that you don&#8217;t know me or what I do or what I stand for. Rather than suggestion I be more conscious of how I am viewed I suggest you get the chip off your shoulder and stop thinking that what you do is more important than what I do. We both are serving our patrons to the best of our ability in an important role.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Cornwall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Cornwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t speak for Bobbie, but some of the things I can&#039;t share as a manager are:

- Internal workings of computer security activities - state confidential information.
- Any disciplinary talks I&#039;ve had with employees - privacy, union contracts.
- Serious difficulties with other departments. I don&#039;t have any, but if I did, speaking of it publicly would not be helpful and would not be appreciated. 

There are other things of this nature. Some of my fellow managers can think of them. 

Another thing to bear in mind is that most of us in LibDay5 aren&#039;t trying to account for every single moment of our days. If we told you every last task that we worked on, the blog entries would be endless. At least they would be for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak for Bobbie, but some of the things I can&#8217;t share as a manager are:</p>
<p>- Internal workings of computer security activities &#8211; state confidential information.<br />
- Any disciplinary talks I&#8217;ve had with employees &#8211; privacy, union contracts.<br />
- Serious difficulties with other departments. I don&#8217;t have any, but if I did, speaking of it publicly would not be helpful and would not be appreciated. </p>
<p>There are other things of this nature. Some of my fellow managers can think of them. </p>
<p>Another thing to bear in mind is that most of us in LibDay5 aren&#8217;t trying to account for every single moment of our days. If we told you every last task that we worked on, the blog entries would be endless. At least they would be for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Cornwall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Cornwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Strng! I&#039;m sorry I didn&#039;t see your comment before posting me. You said it so much better than me! Of course, perhaps not being a cataloger myself helps a little when I say that cataloging is fundamental to libraries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Strng! I&#8217;m sorry I didn&#8217;t see your comment before posting me. You said it so much better than me! Of course, perhaps not being a cataloger myself helps a little when I say that cataloging is fundamental to libraries.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Cornwall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Cornwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bobbi, Your comment policy is short and to the point. Mine is somewhat longer http://alaskanlibrarian.wordpress.com/2008/11/08/comment-policy/. Maybe I need to simplify.

Some of the most valuable people to patrons never see a patron. I&#039;m thinking of catalogers. Without catalogers libraries would be stacks of random books. Maybe you&#039;d find something and maybe you wouldn&#039;t. But with catalogers you&#039;re pretty certain to find something or have confidence your library did not have a book on that subject, by that author, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bobbi, Your comment policy is short and to the point. Mine is somewhat longer <a href="http://alaskanlibrarian.wordpress.com/2008/11/08/comment-policy/" rel="nofollow">http://alaskanlibrarian.wordpress.com/2008/11/08/comment-policy/</a>. Maybe I need to simplify.</p>
<p>Some of the most valuable people to patrons never see a patron. I&#8217;m thinking of catalogers. Without catalogers libraries would be stacks of random books. Maybe you&#8217;d find something and maybe you wouldn&#8217;t. But with catalogers you&#8217;re pretty certain to find something or have confidence your library did not have a book on that subject, by that author, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: A Day in the Life of a Library 2010 (Part One) &#171; Librarian in the Cloud</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Day in the Life of a Library 2010 (Part One) &#171; Librarian in the Cloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] on, included many times this morning in response to a &#8220;certain&#8221; comment on this post by Bobbi Newman, but what I&#8217;ve gotten the most out of this week is using the libday5 tag for my Delicious [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on, included many times this morning in response to a &#8220;certain&#8221; comment on this post by Bobbi Newman, but what I&#8217;ve gotten the most out of this week is using the libday5 tag for my Delicious [...]</p>
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		<title>By: toots</title>
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		<dc:creator>toots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i am finding myself wanting to respond to this even though i know it will come across as a personal attack - sorry. i disagree with moogie - i don&#039;t think that face to face time with patrons trumps other library work. but....it seems like...well...you didn&#039;t really do anything all day. maybe it&#039;s implied in your statement that you can&#039;t share stuff now that you&#039;re a manager, but...i think a lot of back office people are kidding themselves when they think they&#039;re doing just as much as those who actually do stuff, like order materials, provide reference services, develop programs, research new resources, talk to vendors, etc. i guess i just don&#039;t get the whole &quot;my job is the big picture&quot; thing. what do you DO all day? (not you specifically, bobbi, but everyone in a position like yours.) either you guys aren&#039;t doing enough or you need to be more conscious of how you are viewed by your staff and provide them with more information about your responsibilities, because otherwise there&#039;s going to be backlash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am finding myself wanting to respond to this even though i know it will come across as a personal attack &#8211; sorry. i disagree with moogie &#8211; i don&#8217;t think that face to face time with patrons trumps other library work. but&#8230;.it seems like&#8230;well&#8230;you didn&#8217;t really do anything all day. maybe it&#8217;s implied in your statement that you can&#8217;t share stuff now that you&#8217;re a manager, but&#8230;i think a lot of back office people are kidding themselves when they think they&#8217;re doing just as much as those who actually do stuff, like order materials, provide reference services, develop programs, research new resources, talk to vendors, etc. i guess i just don&#8217;t get the whole &#8220;my job is the big picture&#8221; thing. what do you DO all day? (not you specifically, bobbi, but everyone in a position like yours.) either you guys aren&#8217;t doing enough or you need to be more conscious of how you are viewed by your staff and provide them with more information about your responsibilities, because otherwise there&#8217;s going to be backlash.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatAndromeda</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatAndromeda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@librarianbyday (2/2) horizons &amp; created more educational opportunity than I ever did in the classroom. public service for introverts ftw ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@librarianbyday (2/2) horizons &amp; created more educational opportunity than I ever did in the classroom. public service for introverts ftw <img src='http://librarianbyday.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ThatAndromeda</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatAndromeda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@librarianbyday I loved the public service work I did as my school&#039;s scheduler; never f2f with a student but expanded more (1/2)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@librarianbyday I loved the public service work I did as my school&#8217;s scheduler; never f2f with a student but expanded more (1/2)</p>
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		<title>By: lauramac95</title>
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		<dc:creator>lauramac95</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(2/3) @librarianbyday As a #cataloger, I roundly disagree. ^_^ Strng_Dichotomy already hit that one out of the park in his comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(2/3) @librarianbyday As a #cataloger, I roundly disagree. ^_^ Strng_Dichotomy already hit that one out of the park in his comment.</p>
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