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	<description>by Bobbi Newman &#124; I&#039;m not that kind of librarian</description>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bobbi, this is a great post! I love taking the initiative - I think that sometimes people need a little push that yes, they CAN do it, they DO have time, and they ARE smart about their online identity / reputation. Hopefully your post was that push :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobbi, this is a great post! I love taking the initiative &#8211; I think that sometimes people need a little push that yes, they CAN do it, they DO have time, and they ARE smart about their online identity / reputation. Hopefully your post was that push <img src='http://librarianbyday.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nicolette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicolette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I agree that we should all try to help our patrons by familiarizing ourselves with every technical competency possible, the &quot;get with the lifelong learning or find another line of work&quot; argument is a little harsh.  There are times in everyone&#039;s lives (and if this has not happened to you yet, you are very lucky) when learning more at home will not fit.  It is not that your job is not a priority.  It is that there are too many priorities and too few resources.

Right now I cannot help patrons with some e-device download issues beyond reading forums with them because I do not have the device, my library does not have the device, and at this point in time I do not have the discretionary funds to purchase a device to learn on my own by try and fail.

There are times that the time I might be devoting to learning greater technology competency outside normal work hours is devoted to developing programs for patrons outside normal work hours or writing an article for a library association outside normal work hours or taking on database training (training other librarians) outside normal work hours or attending functions on behalf of the library outside normal work hours.

And there are times that discretionary time (what a misnomer!) during a particular week or weeks must be devoted to family or personal rejuvenation so that I can give the patrons my all when I am working with them. There are librarians who must hold down multiple jobs so one job is occupying a slot of time that could be devoted to lifelong learning.

Lately I have had the opportunity to read a number of posts and view a number of clips indicating that people who are not on the way to being as technically adept as the writer or maker of the clip are lazy or not dedicated. Skills outside the technical are devalued.  Collection development, training, patron job assistance, and literacy programming might be what are taking up some of that time that &quot;should&quot; be devoted to technological skills acquisition.  We do all have priorities.  They all are different.  Many of them, in addition to technology skill, may be librarianship based. And sometimes life intervenes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that we should all try to help our patrons by familiarizing ourselves with every technical competency possible, the &#8220;get with the lifelong learning or find another line of work&#8221; argument is a little harsh.  There are times in everyone&#8217;s lives (and if this has not happened to you yet, you are very lucky) when learning more at home will not fit.  It is not that your job is not a priority.  It is that there are too many priorities and too few resources.</p>
<p>Right now I cannot help patrons with some e-device download issues beyond reading forums with them because I do not have the device, my library does not have the device, and at this point in time I do not have the discretionary funds to purchase a device to learn on my own by try and fail.</p>
<p>There are times that the time I might be devoting to learning greater technology competency outside normal work hours is devoted to developing programs for patrons outside normal work hours or writing an article for a library association outside normal work hours or taking on database training (training other librarians) outside normal work hours or attending functions on behalf of the library outside normal work hours.</p>
<p>And there are times that discretionary time (what a misnomer!) during a particular week or weeks must be devoted to family or personal rejuvenation so that I can give the patrons my all when I am working with them. There are librarians who must hold down multiple jobs so one job is occupying a slot of time that could be devoted to lifelong learning.</p>
<p>Lately I have had the opportunity to read a number of posts and view a number of clips indicating that people who are not on the way to being as technically adept as the writer or maker of the clip are lazy or not dedicated. Skills outside the technical are devalued.  Collection development, training, patron job assistance, and literacy programming might be what are taking up some of that time that &#8220;should&#8221; be devoted to technological skills acquisition.  We do all have priorities.  They all are different.  Many of them, in addition to technology skill, may be librarianship based. And sometimes life intervenes.</p>
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		<title>By: Why Transliteracy? An Introduction for Librarians &#171; Libraries and Transliteracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Transliteracy? An Introduction for Librarians &#171; Libraries and Transliteracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Top Ten Links Week 29- Logo Contest, Speaker Tips, Finding Time, The Value of Privacy, and More &#124; Librarian by Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top Ten Links Week 29- Logo Contest, Speaker Tips, Finding Time, The Value of Privacy, and More &#124; Librarian by Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 5. How to Find Time to Learn Something New or Tackle a Passion Project &#8211; post from Lifehacker on how to squeeze all those extras into your life.  Very in nice in relation to my post earlier this week on finding time. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 5. How to Find Time to Learn Something New or Tackle a Passion Project &#8211; post from Lifehacker on how to squeeze all those extras into your life.  Very in nice in relation to my post earlier this week on finding time. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joan Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m all for lifelong learning and serving our patrons.  I also have empathy for employees who do not necessarily choose their life&#039;s priorities.  Choosing one&#039;s priorities is kind of a privilege.  I guess I don&#039;t share your frustration because I can totally understand why some employees do not want to use their limited free time to learn another skill.  I encourage all of my employees to learn new skills but I give them the time to do it on the job.

Isn&#039;t it kind of a compliment for someone to say to you &quot;how do you keep up with everything, I don’t have time for that&quot;?  They are kind of amazed at your commitment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for lifelong learning and serving our patrons.  I also have empathy for employees who do not necessarily choose their life&#8217;s priorities.  Choosing one&#8217;s priorities is kind of a privilege.  I guess I don&#8217;t share your frustration because I can totally understand why some employees do not want to use their limited free time to learn another skill.  I encourage all of my employees to learn new skills but I give them the time to do it on the job.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it kind of a compliment for someone to say to you &#8220;how do you keep up with everything, I don’t have time for that&#8221;?  They are kind of amazed at your commitment.</p>
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		<title>By: Buffy Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buffy Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joyce Valenza and Doug Johnson canvassed this topic quite eloquently last fall at http://www.schoollibraryjournal.com/article/CA6699357.html; consequently, this topic was the subject of many blog posts and responses in quite a few virtual (as well as f2f) spaces.  There were also some very meaningful &quot;counterpoint&quot; arguments as well (pro/con both, actually) at Doug&#039;s blog:  http://doug-johnson.squarespace.com/blue-skunk-blog/2009/10/7/where-are-the-others.html.

While largely ignored by those outside school library circles, I think the article and subsequent conversations from last fall have relevance for all librarians and educators (it isn&#039;t just library land struggling with these issues).

While I agree that we need to be self-starters and take initiative for our learning instead of always waiting for someone else to show us or lead the way, I think rants at those who are resisting or not making professional growth will pretty much fall on deaf ears no matter how articulate or spot-on they may be.    I think the bigger issue is why has the administration of workplaces like libraries and education enabled stagnancy and complacency; perhaps advocating for a culture of innovation and creativity is a more effective strategy for encouraging people to engage in ongoing professional growth.   It also makes me wonder if professional undergraduate and graduate programs are not stressing the importance of lifelong learning, curiosity, and knowing how to be a self-starting learner---this is evident in the whines I see periodically from librarians who lament their MLS program did not prepare them for librarianship (as if any program, not matter how good, can ever teach you everything you think you might need to know, which is a ridiculous expectation anyway).  

The reality is not everyone is a self-starter, and we all have different learning styles; while I understand ad appreciate your frustration, I have to come realize in the last year that investing time in showing people concrete strategies for jump-starting their learning and the value in doing so is generally a much more effective approach that berating people.    I think professional issues like this are a prime opportunity to demonstrate leadership through action and to build our &quot;tribe&quot;.





Buffy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joyce Valenza and Doug Johnson canvassed this topic quite eloquently last fall at <a href="http://www.schoollibraryjournal.com/article/CA6699357.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.schoollibraryjournal.com/article/CA6699357.html</a>; consequently, this topic was the subject of many blog posts and responses in quite a few virtual (as well as f2f) spaces.  There were also some very meaningful &#8220;counterpoint&#8221; arguments as well (pro/con both, actually) at Doug&#8217;s blog:  <a href="http://doug-johnson.squarespace.com/blue-skunk-blog/2009/10/7/where-are-the-others.html" rel="nofollow">http://doug-johnson.squarespace.com/blue-skunk-blog/2009/10/7/where-are-the-others.html</a>.</p>
<p>While largely ignored by those outside school library circles, I think the article and subsequent conversations from last fall have relevance for all librarians and educators (it isn&#8217;t just library land struggling with these issues).</p>
<p>While I agree that we need to be self-starters and take initiative for our learning instead of always waiting for someone else to show us or lead the way, I think rants at those who are resisting or not making professional growth will pretty much fall on deaf ears no matter how articulate or spot-on they may be.    I think the bigger issue is why has the administration of workplaces like libraries and education enabled stagnancy and complacency; perhaps advocating for a culture of innovation and creativity is a more effective strategy for encouraging people to engage in ongoing professional growth.   It also makes me wonder if professional undergraduate and graduate programs are not stressing the importance of lifelong learning, curiosity, and knowing how to be a self-starting learner&#8212;this is evident in the whines I see periodically from librarians who lament their MLS program did not prepare them for librarianship (as if any program, not matter how good, can ever teach you everything you think you might need to know, which is a ridiculous expectation anyway).  </p>
<p>The reality is not everyone is a self-starter, and we all have different learning styles; while I understand ad appreciate your frustration, I have to come realize in the last year that investing time in showing people concrete strategies for jump-starting their learning and the value in doing so is generally a much more effective approach that berating people.    I think professional issues like this are a prime opportunity to demonstrate leadership through action and to build our &#8220;tribe&#8221;.</p>
<p>Buffy</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbi Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbi Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry I don&#039;t follow. As I said we all have different priorities, sometimes those affect our jobs. Our jobs involve serving our patrons if we are failing to provide what they need to be active, informed literate citizens in todays society we are failing. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry I don&#8217;t follow. As I said we all have different priorities, sometimes those affect our jobs. Our jobs involve serving our patrons if we are failing to provide what they need to be active, informed literate citizens in todays society we are failing. </p>
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		<title>By: Joan Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think we could all use a little more focus on work/life balance.  Some need to drop the remote while others need to exercise more.  Others need to relax their tech devotion while some may need to develop it.  We&#039;re all at different points in our lives/careers.  I had a baby last year which totally re-prioritized my life.  Suddenly, there&#039;s way less time for everything...work, professional development, baking, friends, movies, tv, twitter, reading, everything.  

TV is an easy time drain to focus on, but it could just as easily be taking care of a sick family member.  Or dealing with a personal problem.  Or raising goats!  Cut people slack because we always over estimate our commitments while underestimating everyone else&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we could all use a little more focus on work/life balance.  Some need to drop the remote while others need to exercise more.  Others need to relax their tech devotion while some may need to develop it.  We&#8217;re all at different points in our lives/careers.  I had a baby last year which totally re-prioritized my life.  Suddenly, there&#8217;s way less time for everything&#8230;work, professional development, baking, friends, movies, tv, twitter, reading, everything.  </p>
<p>TV is an easy time drain to focus on, but it could just as easily be taking care of a sick family member.  Or dealing with a personal problem.  Or raising goats!  Cut people slack because we always over estimate our commitments while underestimating everyone else&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbi Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbi Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alice - Thanks for posting this, very appropriate!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alice &#8211; Thanks for posting this, very appropriate!</p>
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		<title>By: Alice Yucht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice Yucht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 02:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[also worth reading: http://lifehacker.com/5590732/how-to-find-time-to-learn-something-new-or-tackle-a-passion-project]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also worth reading: <a href="http://lifehacker.com/5590732/how-to-find-time-to-learn-something-new-or-tackle-a-passion-project" rel="nofollow">http://lifehacker.com/5590732/how-to-find-time-to-learn-something-new-or-tackle-a-passion-project</a></p>
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